Johnny Wants to Defeat and Destroy You

Johnny Robertson said –  “We are here to defeat destroy you and uplift truth

Now, for those of us who spend time on Topix, this is a little bit of old news. However, it’s really been eating at me for years. Forget all of our differences, just for a moment, but I want all of you (especially those of you know and listen to Johnny Robertson) to think about those words.

“Defeat”? Okay. “Uplift truth”? Amen. But “Destroy“?

“Destroy?”

I challenge each and every hyper-conservative church of Christ person who frequents Topix and other like sites to find me one example of New Testament authorization for Johnny Robertson’s wish to destroy persons who disagree with his doctrine. Is that really “what the Bible says”?

Let’s look at a few examples of the proper use of the word “destroy” in the NT.

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.” Matthew 5:17

“For the Son of man is not come to destroy mens lives, but to save [them].” Luke 9:56

“The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.” John 10:10

Now, there are other passages that talk about God destroying the wicked, but it’s not the job of God’s followers.

Let’s look at a couple of more points.

Jesus – Did Jesus seek to destroy his enemies?

But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. Luke 6:27-31

What about the writers of the New Testament?

Paul (Saul) – (Acts 9) Now, certainly Saul tried to destroy his enemies, but that was prior to his being saved. I think that truth says so, so very much. (Johnny reminds me of a Saul who needs to become a Paul, and this incident just confirms the truth of that statement.) After his conversion, what sorts of things did Paul say about how a believer should treat his or her enemy?

Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary,

“if your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink;
for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21, ESV

And what about Peter?

Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. 1 Peter 3:9

Now, I know that this is difficult to do. It’s not easy being a Christian and truly living and loving in a Christlike manner. We all make mistakes, and certainly on the internet we all say things we later regret.

Johnny, I would like to extend you the opportunity to make amends for this inflammatory comment. Perhaps you would like to clarify what you meant. Perhaps you would like to apologize if you recognize in hindsight that it was out of line and not a fitting comment for a person who calls himself a follower of Christ. If you apologize, I will not mention it again. It will be forgotten – “as far as the east is from the west” – at least by me. With others? I cannot say. The damage is probably already done. But a little humility can go a long way.

Conversely, if you stand by that statement, if it is truly your desire to “destroy” those who disagree with you, then it will come back around to you. Just like you take statements from people and broadcast them again and again in an attempt to engrain them into the psyche of your viewers, your comment will return again and again, here and other places. This won’t be out of spite, or a desire to be vindictive, it will be so that people will know what you truly stand for, if that is indeed your true feelings regarding those you consider to be “unbelievers”.

The ball is in your court.

Update: As of today Feb 21, 2013, we have still not received any sort of retraction or apology from Johnny Robertson. He made some half-hearted attempts to justify his words, but he didn’t come close to saying that his words were wrong or that he was sorry for misspeaking. His lack of humility on this subject speaks volumes, IMO.

1 Peter 5:5 tells us that followers of Christ are to be “clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.” Johnny, don’t be proud. You can still apologize, and our guarantee to forget the offense stands.

“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matt. 6:12, 14-15)

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Johnny behaving BADLY

In 2008, Johnny Robertson wrote regarding a young man in the Martinsville community who had died in a tragic car accident.  In that letter, Johnny callously stated his belief that the young man was not in heaven.

Johnny’s comments:

Sunday, March 9, 2008

I have been reading with interest the comments surrounding the accident in which the two young men were killed (Ryan Patton and Andrew Bourland) recently. Most interesting to me are the letters to the editor. I noticed that one person said that the paper should not include the details and then another stated that the facts such as laws concerning teen driving, alcohol sales and more needed enforcement, and need to be mentioned so as to warn others.

I would like to comment on the funeral and the reverend’s statements. She told that the EMT said a prayer for a person who by their own admission “did not know the Lord” (Ryan Patton) and that this prayer of the EMT turned the cold body warm and the “preacher” pronounced the teen saved at the funeral in front of hundreds present, and later all readers of the Bulletin.

It is bad enough that people say you can pray “the sinner’s prayer” (not in the Bible) just before you die, and then affirm you will be saved. It is beyond excusable that someone else can pray over one who is in an accident in which over 50 beer cans can be found at the scene and pronounce them saved. The message we are now sending is that you can live any kind of life, break any number of laws and heaven will accept you upon someone’s prayer in your behalf. The Mormons baptize living persons in the place of dead relatives and in Martinsville we are being told the EMT can pray you into salvation. Neither is true.

– Johnny Robertson, Martinsville, Va

Now, I didn’t know the young man (did Johnny?), and I would never presume to state in a public forum such as the Martinsville Bulletin that the young man was damned – especially when the family is so deep in grief over losing him.  I am not God to know things like that, and neither is Johnny.  There isn’t room on the judgment seat for more than One – and He will make those sorts of calls.

I am truly flabbergasted that people still attend Martinsville coc, ESPECIALLY after this letter from Johnny.  I am not sure what good he thought it was possibly going to do for the furthering of the doctrine that he professes.

Johnny: We all know about your limited view of God’s grace, but is that really the time to express it?  You already get two hours a week (more hours if you count the other programs) to bring your schtick into the community, and that’s not enough for you that you have to go out and cause damage to a grieving family on top of things?  I know that you think you are being compassionate, but the odds that that family will ever darken the door of your church just rose to astronomical.  Way to be Christ’s ambassador, my man!

Now, on the flip side, take a look at the response the family gave to Johnny, from the Martinsville Bulletin:

Letter: Lorrie Pace Family forgives Robertson

My name is Lorrie Patton Pace and I am Ryan Patton’s oldest sister. I received a call from my father on Thursday. He informed me that there was a letter to the editor printed in Sunday’s paper from Johnny Robertson that contained comments that were very hurtful to my family. My dad and stepmom are devastated. I have lost two brothers in 13 months and my parents, two sons. We will never be the same.

Our hearts have been ripped out and now we have to hear comments from someone like Robertson. I want to send Robertson this message:

Sir, my family forgives you, and we will pray that God forgives you for your insensitive and callous words; our God is a loving God, and we know Ryan is at his side.

Lorrie Pace Senatobia, Miss.

Now, that is the attitude of Christ – that the family doesn’t strike out at Johnny – but extends forgiveness to him for the harm he has done.  This is the way Christians are supposed to act.

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